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Nearly 10 years on and Senna lives on as the best. He may
not have broken all the records in his short life and others may have
passed him in the stats department but no one yet has shown the skill and
the passion that Senna showed. Milton from Brazil got it right, I quote : "Senna is
dead! Schummy is the best! - Milton - Brazil"!!!!!. No doubt dudes, even a blind would see the difference.
Forever Ayrton Senna better than Michael Schumacher. Who's kidding who here? Of course Michael is the best. And he's proven. You cannot say Senna is better. Be realistic here people - Jazz - South Africa SCHUMACHER HAS NEVER HAD AND OUTCLASSED A WORLD CHAMPION TEAM-MATE. SIMPLE AS THAT. SCHUMACHER IS AT THE SAME LEVEL AS PROST - BELOW SENNA!! - Dean - England Ayrton Senna, the all-time greatest driver of Formula One History. Nobody does better... Henrique R - Brazil Senna was a great driver and its just not possible to compare him to Michael. Forget the 6 world titles which Michael has won. Had the tragedy not been happened he would have written the history of F1 racing. Titles do not matter - Bronson D - India (In reply to Al - Syria) to a certain extent I agree with
you. But in 1999 Schumacher couldn't win the championship because he broke
his leg at Silverstone and was out for 5 races. So Irvine took over the
team leader job from Schumi. I have to admit if this hadn't happened he
would have won because although then I wanted Hakkinen to win, now I can
say he was very lucky. Loads of times his car let him down and who can
forget when he crashed out in the lead at Monza?? Schumacher has had it
easy with his team mates though and that is something that will always be
held against him and in my opinion what doesn't make him the best. Cheers! So much excellent debate!. Well, you can't ever say the MS is better than AS simply
because Schumacher had the best car always and his team-mates were not
there although they are as good as himself. Let us begin with Eddie, for
four years he was slower than Schummi by 0.1 second and many times faster,
and in 1999 that was a big prove that even MS team-mates have the right to
fight for the championship. MS lost for Mika with a 16 points gap while
Eddie lost only for 2 points. And the Greatest of all Rubens. I think he's
much better than Schummi, we saw him this year fighting and he was faster
than Schummi 6 times. and if his luck was better in Germany and Hungary.
and if Ferrari didn't ask him to do that comic play during the States GP,
he would have got it. I tell you ! He was the best qualifier this year in
a rate of 3.6 followed by Montoya with 4.2 then Schummi 4.3 then Kimi and
Ralf with 6.8 then Jarno with 7.3, Fernando with 7.9 and finally David
with 8.5. Three poles , three fastest laps and two wins. Rubens got 77 pts
last year and 65 pts this year. while MS got 144 last year and 93 this
one. Who went backward then ??? Hello there, I do respect most of your opinions, however I
definitely don't think Senna was a truck driver and I also don't believe
that today's cars with electronic aids (not ABS though) make MS less of a
great driver (as long as that goes for everybody not just the ones who can
cheat without getting caught). However the lack of a great opponent (like
Prost), except of course for Hakkinen, do. Adam of England - Hello. Firstly, I am glad that you
accepted my comments in a sporty manner & I respect you for
that. On basis of achievements Schumacher is the most
successful, however there is more to judging drivers. I would first like
to clear some misconceptions that I have noticed doing the rounds... |
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(In reply to Ryan from Sri Lanka) Ok fair play mate, I
respect opinions from any Ff1 fan. Obviously you are a Schumi fan and of
course I am a Senna fan. I would be interested to know what you think of
the fair play at Ferrari? Rubens letting!!! Michael win at Austria?
Licking Michaels boots as Alain Prost said?? For sure you would have to
admit these 2 drivers were very talented and leagues ahead of many, but I
can't deny the fact that Michael is not under pressure in the same way
that Ayrton was in the races in his heyday. I would not describe Coulthard
nor Montoya as threats to Schumacher. Montoya is still too inexperienced
and Coulthard will never be champ. The argument is over Schuey is the best simple as that. As EMELIO from Brazil says even Brazilians are beginning to accept it. Adam from England also forgets that the electronic aids were not available in the junior formulas and sports cars series that MS drove in and won in the late eighties so his comment that Schuey would not be as good without driver aids is irrelevant - Mathew T - Australia Adam of England, Please don't get me wrong I'm not taking
a hit at you but your reasons for rating Senna higher than Schumacher is
way out of whack! This is a comment to T.B. from Canada and all the others
that talk about the fact that Schumi has made some dirty mistakes in his
career. Ironically I find that the people that loved Senna usually hate
Schumi. The reason I find it ironic is that Senna was a racer who would do
anything to win a Grand Prix. T.B. from Canada says Schumi is dirty for
what he did to Jacques and Damon and yet he loves Senna, a driver that
would take out his own teammate just to win a race, let alone a
championship. He would do whatever it takes. There is no doubt in my mind that Ayrton Senna was a much
faster, more gifted and deserved world champion. Although Schumacher has
won more titles and had more race wins, this doesn't necessarily make him
the greatest. Senna is better than Schumacher...Senna is the best driver at all time no one is greater than him - Jondale - Philippines Senna is the best. The numbers cannot say that Shummy is the best. Because Senna did not have time enough to show us who is the greater in F1. Senna was talent, emotion, speed... Thanks - Rafael - Brazil Senna was a more complete driver. He raced during both
eras. Turbo, Aspirate, manual shifter and Semi-automatic. The respective periods that these drivers competed means that measuring the technology vs skill ratio is difficult. Add in other factors like rule changes and team orders, and it makes it even harder. They can't be accurately compared, but it can be said that they were/still are the best drivers of their times - Peter - Australia They are both in a class of there own. Two totally opposite people, both great in their own right Senna started when he was young, Michael older. Two different types of driving, and two totally different types of personalties - Janis - USA I had to read all the comments because now that M.S. has
his 6th title, the comparisons move from the race track where things are
decided to the minds of fans --where they achieve a legendary
status. If it wouldn't have been for Senna, Prost now should have
at least 7 titles and who knows how many GP and podiums and vice versa;
Not to count the fact that they achieved what they did against other
monsters like Lauda, Piquet and Mansell. Michael has to be better. He took Ferrari, which used to
be comparable to Minardi and made them what they are today. Yes he surrounded
himself with the best and brightest and rebuilt a TEAM. Some people say
his driving style is not sporting, if the FIA doesn't stop him, then it is
within the rules end of discussion. Michael is by far the best! Both champions - both had great teams with tremendous
ability. You never know who would be better. They are both in a class of there own. Two totally opposite people, both great in their own right Senna started when he was young, Michael older. Two different types of driving, and two totally different types of personalties - Janis - USA Who knows how many championships Senna would have won? He
won three and then he died. I doubt he would have won six, but Senna was a
terrific driver. I'm sure if the question was Senna vs Schumacher in 2003,
then it would have been a different story. Senna is dead! Schummy is the best! - Milton - Brazil I do not rate Senna high at all, there were lots of better drivers in F1. Even during Senna's era - Yves B - USA Senna was a tractor driver compared to Schumi. And Schumi proved it before Senna died - Formula1fan - EU No questions. Shimmy's the best, even Brazilians are beginning to accept it - Emilio N - Brazil As much as many would like to, the two cannot be compared.
Senna's death before his time leaves too many questions unanswered. Whilst I agree with the views of many others, that, it is
sometimes very difficult to compare who in fact is/was a better driver in
my opinion looking at both Senna and Schumacher in their respective eras
and what they have accomplished I for one rate Schumacher in front of
Senna. Not taking anything away from Senna for my mind Schumacher has
succeeded far more than Senna did. Having said that it is unfortunate that
we would never know what Senna may have achieved. I think a great driver would still be great regardless of
the cars technical regs etc. The talent and drive will still be present.
Both these drivers had that greatness, but I think Michael has the edge
over Senna in that he is able to keep that drive, determination but more
importantly focus than what Senna was able to do, remember Michael's and
Ralf's drive in Monza after their mother just died? Let it be known, I have been involved and followed Auto Racing for the last 39 years and Michael Schumacher is the Greatest Racing Driver to ever sit in any race car any time ever !!!!!!!!!!. - Dave W - USA To Ryan from S-L. I guess it's a matter of how you
perceive life after all and how different people can succeed, doing the
same thing. The two cannot be compared ... period... - kaustubh - India/USA While I agree that Senna was one of the best & perhaps
the most aggressive, Michael Schumacher is the Complete Driver :
Aggressive, Intelligent (not very sporty though). Ayrton raced clean and fair. MS is a dirty driver who will
wreck himself to stop his competition from beating him. He won two
championships that way. He did it to Hill and also to Jacques. Put him in
a BAR or one of the other less developed teams and if he can win a world
championship with them then I would change my opinion of him. It was a pleasure watching senna drive. Can't say the same
for Michael. That's more important for me than how many championships they
won. Here are 2 clips with senna doing things MS couldn't imagine doing in
his wildest dreams.. You can' t compare Fangio with Senna or Schumacher or
Schumacher with Senna .. Different regulations, times, track
designs, team orders. But they are alike and different in the same
time. They brought happiness, sadness and surprises for millions of
fans. These drivers are great in their own rights, in their own
time. Comparing them is just like the joke of a comparison people made on
Muhammad Ali and Rocky Marciano. To me, the greatest tragedy of Senna's death, apart from
the loss of one of F1's greatest characters and drivers, was the
accompanying loss of the years of great rivalry that would have existed
between him and Schumacher. The thing that both these drivers share is an
attitude that winning is the only acceptable result at any race and any
championship. They are not happy with simply being an F1 driver! Page 1 - Page 2 - Page 3 - Page 4 - Page 5 - Page 6 - Page 7 - Page 8Join 8 'n' Pole and see how your predictions stack up against the others. Register NOW!
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